[00:00:00]Luke Storey: I'm Luke Storey. For the past 22 years, I've been relentlessly committed to my deepest passion, designing the ultimate lifestyle based on the most powerful principles of spirituality, health, psychology, and personal development. The Life Stylist podcast is a show dedicated to sharing my discoveries and the experts behind them with you. So, Dr. Buttar, welcome back to the show.
[00:00:27]Rashid Buttar: Thank you.
[00:00:28]Luke Storey: We're here at, of course, lovely Cuixmala in Jalisco, Mexico, the mother of all beauty. We were talking before we started recording. For those listening, we've been hanging out for the past couple of days, and having some meals, and things like that. I was telling you how you have the distinction of being my one and only YouTube interview to be deleted as whatever it was, offensive, misinformation, false information.
[00:00:55]Rashid Buttar: Inappropriate.
[00:00:56]Luke Storey: Inappropriate content.
[00:00:57]Rashid Buttar: That's what they said, they call it, inappropriate content. That's the official narrative anyway.
[00:01:00]Luke Storey: Because we dare discuss the forbidden topics. I think what it was is I had the—it was before the film, Plandemic, had come out, and I used that word in the title, and they did not like that, because once that film got yanked from YouTube, then their bots or whatever started scanning for that word, even though it was not that film.
[00:01:20]Rashid Buttar: Well, the Plandemic movie, they were going to release it in series, and that's the last time I was actually in LA, was waiting for that movie. So, since you brought it up, I think it's being released in 24 hours, which is going to be the whole movie now instead of the serial portions. They're releasing the whole thing.
[00:01:38]Luke Storey: Oh, nice. So, by the time this podcast comes out, it'll be out.
[00:01:41]Rashid Buttar: Probably, yeah, 24, 36 hours.
[00:01:43]Luke Storey: Oh, cool.
[00:01:44]Rashid Buttar: They had a time clock and I don't remember exactly when it was.
[00:01:46]Luke Storey: Awesome. So, speaking of which, you're an outspoken doctor who doesn't seem to give any sh*ts about what people think of you and your opinions, which I find very admirable. And you seem to be increasingly being censored. What's the status on your various social media channels right now?
[00:02:11]Rashid Buttar: Well, they're growing constantly, but despite whatever growth we can see, we know that the growth was exponentially higher and it's being censored because I'm getting hundreds, if not thousands of screenshots and messages ranging from, please don't unsubscribe me, to, why am I being unsubscribe, to, I can't see this post, people from all over the world, including my own son. He's like, dad, I can't see this post. I told him, Abie, you may like this post. He's like, I can't see the post.
[00:02:45] And then, he sends me a screenshot, and says, post unavailable. So, just stuff like that. And it's predominantly on—Facebook has been pretty bad all along, but we have our own organization, private association, called the International Association for a Disease Free World, IADFW for short, and that group has over 10,000 paid members. And it's a private Facebook group. And I was censored almost two months ago from my own group, so I can't even post on my own private Facebook group.
[00:03:15] Wow.
[00:03:17] Yeah. So, we've been working on circumventing Facebook for some time, but Instagram and YouTube, certainly. Twitter hasn't really done too much. It's actually my smallest account too, but it hasn't really done that much against me. But YouTube has definitely been censoring.
[00:03:35]Luke Storey: Yeah. Twitter seems to be most active in censorship for political topics. Like if you're not radically left and you're active on Twitter, you're probably going to get censored, from what I've noticed, whereas the other ones tend to go after the medical. Especially Facebook, there's something behind that organization that's very tied into Big Pharma or something. And they get super pissed when you're presenting alternative points of view.
[00:04:02]Rashid Buttar: Yeah. YouTube and Google are part of the pharmaceutical industry now anyway.
[00:04:07]Luke Storey: Right. Yeah. It's one of those things where we're all still kind of playing along because we're able to get our message out to a certain degree, but I would think at some point, in a unified way, people are just all going to have to jump ship and just those platforms are going to become the next Myspace, right?
[00:04:26]Rashid Buttar: Yeah.
[00:04:27]Luke Storey: We're going to be like, ha ha ha, remember when Facebook killed themselves, remember when YouTube killed themselves? And I want to get your take on this, but it seems now, because the political climate, the social climate, medical climate is so disruptive at this moment, because the agenda that we're going to be discussing today is pushing so hard, I'm finding even people that would have been more moderate are becoming aware of alternative points of view, right?
[00:04:55]Rashid Buttar: Very much so.
[00:04:57]Luke Storey: So, it's this ricochet effect, I think, of the powers that be where they've pushed so hard that even a regular normal people are kind of like, wait, what? This isn't making sense.
[00:05:06]Rashid Buttar: It's a very true statement because YouGov came out with a poll on Yahoo! just a few days ago and they said that the coronavirus poll that they were taking hit a new low for people, for Americans that were going to take the vaccine. It dropped down to 42% of Americans are now planning on taking the vaccine, which is an all-time low. Back in March, April, it was in the high 80%. So, I mean, it's a pretty dramatic change when you start to look at the number of people that are saying, I'm not going to take the vaccine now.
[00:05:38] And as more people have become aware, the system has pushed back, trying to make it even more extreme. It's almost like a death struggle. When an animal is about to die, it struggles the most extreme. And I think this is what's happening. They're in their final death struggle and they know that they're not going to survive it like the stupid, draconian types of things that the airlines are not doing. They're now no longer allowing for exemptions, medical exemptions, but now, I was told on August 19th, they're going to start regulating the type of masks without the valves.
[00:06:12] And I know you had story that we talked about with the determined depleted masks that you were talking about. So, when you start looking at that extreme, at some point, somebody is just going to lash out. There is not going to be a discussion. Somebody is going to punch somebody in the face and probably on a bigger level. When I say punch somebody in the face, I mean like a lawsuit. Can you imagine people being told that there's no medical exemption? There was a woman on American Airlines that said she had a medical exemption, they refuted it.
[00:06:40] She had to get them to fly a little old lady. She went ahead and got on the forced to wear a face mask. She ends up having a seizure on the plane, and then they kicked her off the plane for having a seizure. Now it just takes one or two people. And I'm going to put this out in my social media platform. I challenge you to do the same. And anybody else that's listening, find people that have been on an airline that have had a medical exemption, the airlines insisted that they wear a facemask, because remember, the FAA has already said they're not going to mandate that.
[00:07:11] So, the airlines right now, American Airlines, Delta, United, they're on their own right now. All it's going to take is one or two people to file a lawsuit, start a class action, and we could own the airlines, literally, because that's like assault. It would be very hard for them to prove that they knowingly—I mean, how are you going to disprove this? Somebody says, I have a medical exemption. You say, no, we don't honor a medical exemption. FAA says they're not going to mandate this.
[00:07:40] The last thing they want is something like this to go to court. Why? Because as soon to go to court, now, you got discovery. And now, the real science, and literature, and data numbers are going to come out. Besides taking the airline industry down, it'll expose the whole facade. Of course, the mainstream media is not going to cover it, but we don't need mainstream media anymore. I think we've realized, people, through their social media platforms, through other alternative sources of information dissemination, will get that word out. So, if anybody has information on anyone that has been injured, or had a reaction, or some type of detrimental effect, being on a plane and being told that they have to wear a face mask, let's get that data together.
[00:08:18] Remember what happened with the cigarette industry, right? A cigarette a day will keep the doctor away. And when people talked about the negative effects of cigarettes, people ridiculed them. And then, what happened? Finally, somebody took it to court. And now, you have to have the surgeon general's warnings on cigarettes. Look at glyphosate. Oh, it's safe. It's safe. It's safe. Finally, somebody took it to court and this is what happened. This is going to be a much, much shorter time scale. And we can certainly do that. We just got to get the word out there.
[00:08:50]Luke Storey: Yeah, I think that's really important, especially due to the fact that human beings seem to be so shortsighted. You mentioned the tobacco, looking back at leaded paint and leaded gasoline, asbestos, all of these just monumental failures of ingenuity, where at the time, you have a couple of people going, I don't know about this, and everyone stifles their voice. And then, eventually, as time, and I think with this issue now and as we're discussing last night, 5G and everyone thinks, yeah, I want faster movies.
[00:09:24] Okay, well, let's talk in 50 years when there's no more bees, and as a result, no more people. It's like, ah, sometimes, it's frustrating when you have a little bit of knowledge and foresight, and you do some forward-thinking like that. And so, thank God we still have some vestige of hope and social media to get messages like this out, which is why I do what I do, you do what you do. Before we jump into current events, I think for people—your channels seem to have blown up exponentially over the past few months.
[00:09:55] And I think many people know you from the issues that we're talking about right now moving forward. But you, of course, have a long history of medical activism and being counternarrative in terms of the medical industry and wellness in general. So, I'd like to just kind of back up and allow people to get to know you a bit. So, I know you were in the military, and then you became an MD. At what point did you start to become aware of, and shift into more alternative therapies, and kind of breaking free from the existing paradigm?
[00:10:27]Rashid Buttar: Well, first, Luke, I appreciate you going back and recognizing that aspect that I had a life before covid. And so, I appreciate that. I'm not an MD, I'm a DO.
[00:10:36]Luke Storey: Okay.
[00:10:37]Rashid Buttar: Yeah. I did my formal training in general surgery at Brooke Army Medical Center at Fort Sam in San Antonio, Texas. Spent a lot of time in emergency rooms. My last duty station with the military was, I was a chief of the emergency medicine services at Moncrief Army Community Hospital in Fort Jackson, South Carolina. And while I was the ER director there, and also, my previous post on the same post, but I was a chief of PES, my reputation among the doctors and among many of the staff was that I was more, and they labeled it alternative.
[00:11:18] And I've never liked that term. When you think of a highway and you have an alternative route to the highway's block, you go down some dirt path, and go across some freaking creek bed, and then you come back up, and it's always a secondary, less-desired option. To me, what we do is advanced medicine. It should be the high avenue of approach. It's the first thing. And if that doesn't work, then you resort back to the other things that conventionally are done.
[00:11:40] So, that's how my mind has always worked. But back then, I was a conventionally trained doctor. I was dealing with the soldiers that were sick or that had experienced some form of trauma or whatever the case was. And we also had a lot of retired people that would come in or family members of active duty soldiers that were stationed there that would come into the ER. And then, we also covered backup for—this was in Columbia, South Carolina. So, for the city, we also covered as a backup for trauma.
[00:12:11] So, if there was a mass-crash type of situation, even though the civilian population was not supposed to be taken care of in the military, they would be a backup for trauma situations. And so, in that community, my reputation became that I was an alternative-minded doc. In other words, I would do things and suggest things possibly that may work outside. And I was, at that time, pretty fit, and I was pretty active with the military and was doing natural bodybuilding.
[00:12:50] When I got out of college, I played football in college. So, I was always kind of like nutritionally oriented. People talk about bodybuilding. Bodybuilding, what, 75%, 80% of bodybuilding is actually nutrition. And so, I was always nutritionally oriented, doing things that made sense as opposed to not making sense. For example, somebody has diarrhea, what's a doctor do? He gives you a medicine to stop the diarrhea. And those that are in the alternative field will give you a natural substance to stop the diarrhea. And to me, it's idiotic either way.
[00:13:24] Why are you stopping diarrhea? Diarrhea is the physiological response that the creator, the ultimate engineer, came up with to make sure that if we have something that's irritating our system, we expel it through the diarrhea. And if that doesn't work, then we will vomit. But doctors will prescribe Lomotil to stop the diarrhea, Phenergan to stop the vomiting. And it basically supersedes the ultimate engineer's design. So, to me, if somebody gets diarrhea, that tells you that you need to facilitate that expelling.
[00:13:58] The only time I'll ever treat diarrhea to stop it was when I had soldiers that were tactical. Like when I was in Korea, they're going out into the DMZ for their patrols. Well, you don't want to get shot, I guess while you're having spot and do your business, but that's the only time. And otherwise, you facilitate the diarrhea. You don't give anything to stop it. You hydrate the person and you support them, or maybe a more common example—that's a really common example, I guess, but a more common example that people probably have experienced are like when you're dealing with the drugs like Tagamet and Zantac, the H2 blockers.
[00:14:36] So, people will eat a lot of food, or they'll be obese, or whatever, and they end up getting the rigors, the gastroesophageal reflux. And they go to the doctor, the doctor says, okay, well, take this, Carafate or some type of it like Pepto-Bismol. And it coats the stomach and reduces the acidity in the stomach. And you get some relief, and then you think, okay, I'm good now. But two, three weeks later, maybe two, three months later, that Pepto-Bismol or the Carafate won't work anymore.
[00:15:01] And so, now, you go back to the doctor and he prescribes an H2 blocker. And so, now, you take the H2 blocker, it blocks the acid production. Person feels better, get a false sense of security, but now, what happens inside the body? The body says, the pH inside the stomach is supposed to be a pH of 1, they'll eat the copper right off a penny. And the stomach says, uh-oh, pH is becoming more alkaline. We don't want it to become alkaline because that acid pH is designed to, one, protect the system because everything that we're eating got bacteria and everything on it, so when we eat it, it basically sterilizes everything.
[00:15:32] That's one. And it's sort of mechanism of protection, but also, it helps to digest the food. Now, if you have that pH becoming more alkaline, the stomach is no longer doing what it's supposed to be doing. So, the stomach, being designed by the ultimate engineer, not by idiotic humans, the system says, uh-oh, pH is going up, we need to decrease it, drop it back down to 1. So, it kicks in the parietal cells, the parietal cells are the part that make the hydrochloric acid.
[00:15:57] So, they start working overtime to make more hydrochloric acid. So, now, you got the H2 blockers that are blocking it temporarily, but then the body goes into a compensatory response and starts kicking out more acid. Okay. So, now, three weeks, four weeks, two months, three months later, the burn starts now, but it's getting worse. So, now, they say, hmm, H2 blockers aren't working anymore, let's put you on an acid pump inhibitor. So, they put you on Prilosec or something like that.
[00:16:20] Now, that's preventing the system from making any acids. So, the body goes into massive overdrive and starts throwing out so much acid to compensate the drug. And that's when you develop the ulcers and all these other problems, whereas the solution, all was, when you have a little bit of reflux, loosen your belt, start working out, take some digestive enzymes, and boom, it's all gone. But we, as humans, think that we know what we're doing. And so, we start to stick our idiotic brains into the system and try to interfere.
[00:16:51] The body has an innate mechanism of healing itself. We have over a hundred thousand reactions per second per cell in our bodies. Now, you think that any doctor, researcher, scientist knows what the implications of—they may be smart enough to know what the implications of blocking, that first reaction, maybe even the second reaction, but what about the other 99,998 other reactions that are going on, plus the next hundred thousand in the next second? They don't know.
[00:17:23] And to think that we know, we are the most pompous, arrogant species that have ever lived on the planet. And I'm surprised that, at some points, I know that my followers are probably going to be really upset at hearing this, but at some point, I've questioned that maybe Gates is right. Maybe we do need to be culled down, because we're too stupid to be alive, because we do so many stupid things.
[00:17:45] And then, we wonder, right? I mean, going around wearing a face mask, and then telling people, said, oh, my God, don't you understand what history—I mean, how many times have we all heard this? Those who don't learn history are destined to repeat it. It's only been, what, 75 years? Let's see, quick math, 65, 70, 85 years, is that right? No, 75 years. Seventy-five years since World War II ended, right? 1945, 1946 timeframe.
[00:18:14]Luke Storey: Yeah.
[00:18:15]Rashid Buttar: It's not even been a hundred freaking years and we're repeating the same nonsense we did then. And they're clueless. People are just clueless. They walk around, trying to shame each other. I had a lady tell me, she says, when somebody looks at me with a bad look, like giving me a dirty look because I'm not wearing a face mask, she goes, I yell back at them, I say, stop looking at me, you Nazi, and she goes back up. So, that was good. I like that.
[00:18:35]Luke Storey: That's a good approach. Yeah, that's a good approach. So, you started to, I guess, just think more critically and observe things from a bit more zoomed-out point of view, and thus exploring these different realms of practice and potential.
[00:18:50]Rashid Buttar: Yeah. I think you could probably say that. Just recently, my significant other, Dr. Ashton, had said something about critical thinking, and she made a post about it. And I was like, I'm not picky. I'll just take thinking. You don't have to be critical, just start thinking. And who cares whether you're critically thinking, because at this point, all we have to do is start thinking. We have to ask the questions, right? And my goal has always been to just get a person to ask a question.
[00:19:15] So, the videos that really went crazy were—the video, the first one to put out. It was six videos I put out and it was called COVID-19 Conspiracy? It was a question I was asking. Is this a conspiracy? That's all it was. I wasn't going out there preaching or anything. One of my patients asked a question, then another one, then another one. And so then, I just put out on social media, if you guys really want the answer, let me know, and if you guys want me to put a video, I'll make a video about it.
[00:19:44] And just as a joke, I put down, it's got to be like, I don't even remember what I said, a hundred or 500 yeses. And I had like 800 responses within like 12 hours. Yes, yes, yes. So, I was like, okay then. I decided before I put out, I needed some more time. So, I put out the second video, which was, are you sure you could handle the truth? The first one was, do you want the truth? And the second was, are you sure you can handle the truth? And then, we just made the first video, the COVID-19 Conspiracy?, where we asked the question, what are the facts and what's the fiction?
[00:20:14] And that's how it started. And I think the reason the videos became so popular was because I wasn't making a statement, I was asking the question, and then I was supporting the answer with what I had found. And I gave all the things that I found. And there were people that attacked me on social media. I mean, less than 1% of the people, which according to my son, he said, that's really good when you have only 1% of the people attacking you because I'm known to be a polarizing agent.
[00:20:45] So, he said that's one good thing. He said, I'm amazed by it. And other people have told me the same thing. But the people that have attacked me, it's so funny when you read, I mean, they're definitely paid trolls, or they're just illiterate, or they're blind. But they'll say, well, no, this was based on science. And I'm like, I just showed you the nature article. I mean, all the studies are there. That's what I'm showing. I'm showing the actual studies. I know you've had similar types of things where they've fact-checked you when you've actually showed the study.
[00:21:10] So, now, those are the kind of questions that we have to ask, why is somebody fact-checking something when you can see the signs in front of you? They're not telling you that no longer do you not question the narrative, you have to now no longer question your own eyes and your own ears. It doesn't matter what you're seeing or what you're hearing, brain is not reliable. You cannot register the facts. We, the fact checkers, will tell you what you're actually seeing and what you're hearing.
[00:21:35] That sky is not blue. Okay. It could be a hue of aqua, it could be this, but it's not blue. Whatever it is, it's not blue. It's brown, it could be red, but it's not blue. And if somebody says blue, hey, it's going to be fact-checked. It's that ridiculous. And I think as we said before we started the recording, I think people are starting to figure out that there's something that doesn't smell right.
[00:21:55] And it's sad because it's taken a huge toll. And I'm not talking about the toll from the lives that were lost supposedly to COVID, but the lives of people that have died from suicide, that have died from not going to hospitals because they were afraid of catching COVID or not going to hospitals because they were afraid of contributing to an already overtaxed medical system, because they didn't want to take away resources from hospitals that were supposedly paralyzed with the COVID epidemic, and yet there was nobody in the hospitals.
[00:22:35] I mean, anybody heard about the Brazilian hospital? They were talking about 5,000 COVID patients, it was a mass catastrophe, but the parliament of Brazil, because the Brazilian president hasn't been buying into this garbage, and somebody from parliament, they sent in the police, and they barged into the hospital, they tried to prevent them to come into the hospital, and they barged in, there wasn't a single COVID-19 patient. In fact, there wasn't a single patient, period, in the hospital.
[00:23:04] They were closed for renovations, yet they were telling everybody that they had over 5,000 patients that were COVID-19. So, this type of misinformation, and again, why isn't anybody talking about it? Why isn't media covering it? Why is the media covering staged sessions where COVID-19 patients are coming in to be tested, but they're all actors, and then they're exposed to it, where they don't think the cameras are running anymore.
[00:23:30] And they're interviewing a nurse, and the nurse as well, the problem was we actually had two real patients out of the hundred that came through, so we had to kind of like make sure that—it's that type of ridiculousness, right? Or, during the presidential briefings where the media is attacking the president because he's not wearing a mask, then the press conference is over, cameras are shut off, but there's one still rolling, and you see all the media taking off their own face masks.
[00:23:55]Luke Storey: That was a good video. I love when they get busted like that. That precocious, rebellious part of me was like, ah, got you, busted. But, yeah, the hospital videos were some of the most compelling. And you have these, on the website, questioningcovid.com, it's an amazing collection of doctors, scientists, nurses, et cetera, just going, ah, this is what we're seeing.
[00:24:18] And there are so many videos of even medical staff and practitioners going, hey, man, this unit is empty. On the other hand, this is what's weird about it, I also know, in a second or third-hand way, people that are like, have a family member that's a nurse and they're working in a COVID unit wherever in New York City, and they're like, oh, yeah, there are tons of COVID cases in here, people are really sick, and having all these respiratory problems.
[00:24:46]Rashid Buttar: Yeah, but you got to be really careful, Luke, because these are people—so, you can have 100 people and you'll always have 10% that have—it's the first time they've gotten any limelight and they're going to further—it's like the kid who got his ass beat in high school because he was just a dirt bag, and then he becomes a cop, and he's just going to be an ass to everybody because he's got a chip on his shoulder because you have that type of issue. And I'm not saying everybody's like that, but my point is, you give people a little bit of information, and they will run with that misinformation, and think that that's it. I'll give you a perfect example.
[00:25:22] So, we get a video. So, one of her colleagues, Dr. Ashton's colleagues, another doctor somewhere, an ER doc, sends her a message about how burdensome the ER is with COVID patients, right? So, she knows and she's exchanging. And so, she brings me this video, and she says, she just sent this video to me about how burdened their ER is. I've look at this. Now, I've got over 12,000 hours of documented ER time. And I've got probably just as much undocumented, but I've spent a lot of time in ERs plus trauma medicine.
[00:25:56] I was an instructor with advanced trauma, life support course to the American College of Surgeons, teaching doctors how to take care of trauma. I know trauma. I'm looking at this video of this busy ER, and the slowest ER I have ever worked at, okay, I mean, the slowest one, when I compared it to what I was watching, I've never seen an ER that slow. It was just, that was, to me, when I'm looking at this ER, I'm going, what the hell, it's like, nobody is even doing anything.
[00:26:34] They see a bunch of patients standing there, and sitting, and some nurses walking by. And I mean, I'm used to like seeing all hell broke loose and crap flying everywhere. And so, I'm looking at this, going, the slowest ER was busier than what I'm seeing here. That doesn't make any sense. And I tell her that. So, I said, ask him, is this average for your ER because I'm thinking, this is a freaking slow ER, and he's posting it like this is a busy COVID situation.
[00:27:01] So, she responds, and he comes back, and response goes like, well, actually, that's not my ER. That's a friend's E.R. So, now, he's posting a video of a busy ER, which is so damn slow and it's not even his ER. So, I said, well, ask him, how's his ER? And his response was, oh, well, we're doing some construction right now, so it's actually not the normal—so, they're just promoting bullsh*t, is what they're doing. They're not even looking at the real facts.
[00:27:27] I have over 7,800 doctors, just in the last three months, actually, this is probably a-month-old information, it's probably over 8,000, 9.000 now at this point, that have started following me recently when London Real asked me to be on to the second time, he said, it'd be nice if we could get a couple of doctors. I said, what do you mean by a couple? He said, I don't know, a hundred, can you do a hundred? I was like, we can do whatever. And we actually had 166 doctors.
[00:27:57] We would have over 250, we just didn't expect that many doctors to respond. But when I got on there at 15 minutes before the hour, I couldn't get on the Zoom call because they were maxed out for a hundred meetings and they had to do a whole bunch of other stuff. And like two minutes before going live, they opened up for more spaces. And I was getting my phone blowing up from doctors saying that I can't get on. For 25 minutes before, they couldn't get on. So, a lot of them have stopped trying, but two minutes before they got me on, and from that two minutes until noon when it hit, when we were supposed to go, in two minutes, we went from a hundred to 166 doctors on that call.
[00:28:30] And you've probably seen the footage. I think the Plandemic people are going to be airing some of that, too. So, the point is this, there are hundreds, if not thousands of—well, I know it's thousands actually, over 7,800 of them are following me alone worldwide that are like, this is ridiculous. This is bullsh*t. This is just garbage. Every aspect of infectious disease, every aspect of medicine, of signs, of every basic concept of virology is being completely ignored. It's just being completely ignored. Is this thing touching my face? Is this making it—I don't know.
[00:29:04]Luke Storey: You're good.
[00:29:05]Rashid Buttar: Is it good? Okay.
[00:29:05]Luke Storey: Yeah, you're fine.
[00:29:06]Rashid Buttar: So, anyway, I just think that at some point, people are going to hit that critical mass. And I think we've already hit that actually, because now, the momentum is really going crazy. And you can see you can see the opposition's pushback as an indirect measurement of how successful our message has been getting out there.
[00:29:28]Luke Storey: Yeah, it's incredible to me, even with this much evidence that goes contrary to the official narrative, that I don't know, it's just, I observe it from a psychological lens, I guess, in this, it's almost like a Stockholm syndrome, where your cognitive dissonance, where even when those last remaining people are given clear-cut proof from very credible people, that it's just like, they refuse to not be dominated. I'm going like, do you like being imprisoned in your home and losing your business?
[00:30:08]Rashid Buttar: Yeah. I think from a psychological standpoint, though, I think it's a little bit different. I think you hit it when you said cognitive dissonance, right? Because they have to know, if they question this and they start to say, oh, my God, they were right and I was wrong, it creates a chain reaction backwards in time, because now, they have to start questioning many of the things that they took as truths. So, they have to now start questioning everything that they've learned.
[00:30:35] And that's a difficult place. When you start realizing that, if I was wrong about this and I was wrong about this, then how many other things am I wrong about? We see this with doctors that have been giving vaccines, right? And when they recognize and realize what they've been doing, I mean, just imagine you're a pediatrician, you go into medicine, you want to help children, and for 20 years, you've been giving vaccines, and then somebody sticks the studies in front of you and you have a moment where you actually bother reading the study, as opposed to just ignoring it, and it hits you like, holy crap, if I had—
[00:31:13] I mean, remember, pediatricians, they want to help kids, right? They have to suddenly realize and deal with the emotional issue that had I never been born, I would have done more for mankind. That's a tough place for a human being to be. And most of them would just shut down, and say, well, I can't hear you, I can't see you. You're full of garbage. This isn't true because that's the only way they can adjust with reality. Otherwise, they're going to pick up a gun and blow their own heads off, right?
[00:31:39]Luke Storey: Right.
[00:31:39]Rashid Buttar: So, it's a very difficult place. Now, the few that stand up, and say, oh, my God, I cannot believe this, and they acknowledge their mistake, and they change their practice, to me, those are the real heroes in medicine. Those are the people that—I can't say I'm in that category because I've always been outspoken against it. To me, stupidity is—I've been labeled as anti-vaccine. I'm like, I'm not anti-vaccine. I'm anti-stupidity. I mean, if the whole thing is to give a child a vaccine to improve their immune system, then why are we giving at a time when the child can't see or convert?
[00:32:11] And why are we giving them things that are immunosuppressive and suppress the immune system? And why are we giving up with adjuvants that are necessary to cause a reaction? Because without it, you're not going to have a reaction, i.e., what the hell does that got to do with the immunity? And then, why are we giving mutated human cell lines and why—and then, the whys, and whys, and whys go on. But I've never been against vaccines. Just find me the right vaccine. It's like a unicorn. I'm not against unicorns. You find me a unicorn, I'll start breeding them.
[00:32:38]Luke Storey: Yeah. Bigfoot. The safe vaccine, this is like-
[00:32:40]Rashid Buttar: Bigfoot might be real. Okay.
[00:32:44]Luke Storey: Well, that brings me, there are so many things I want to cover, but I know that some of your passion around the vaccine topic, which of course is becoming increasingly relevant in the COVID conversation, was due to the complications that your son experienced. Do you want to tell us a bit of that background and we can kind of meander our way through the current state of vaccines?
[00:33:05]Rashid Buttar: Well, with Abie, he's my middle child, my oldest son, and there's a mini-documentary, people can Google it, it's called, The Abie Story, T-H-E, and then Abie, A-B-I-E, story. And they can Google it and watch the whole thing. But I had treated a couple of kids—again, my background's in surgery, as I said, so I didn't know what autism was. And I had this woman that had come to the clinic and she had a gut issue. And I got her gut straight. And this is early on in my private practice career.
[00:33:43] So, I got out of the military in 1996 six and this was like in 1997. And she had, in her opinion, a great response with her gastrointestinal system. So, she asked me if I would see her daughter who had autism, and at this point, I'm thinking, autism, that's some kind of genetic disorder. I was getting it confused with trisomy 21 and thinking that it's like—I couldn't remember what the—Klinefelter syndrome. I remember my genetics and I didn't know what autism was.
[00:34:14] So, anyway, she brought the child to me and I kind of did the same thing that I did with the mom. I just got her gut straight. I didn't do anything with metals or anything, I just got her gut straight. We identified that she had some mental issues. We started addressing this. And mom was like ecstatic because the last thing that her daughter did that was normal, that was neurotypical, she played patty cake, and that was at the age of like a-year-and-a-half.
[00:34:38] And then, she had gone into a developmental delay or developmental arrest and was non-verbal. Pretty much, she only had a few words, lost everything. And now, this child was like six years old and completely oblivious to her surroundings. But after we start doing her gut and start dealing with some of the other issues, within a few months, she starts playing patty cake again. So, she came back to the same spot that she'd stop. And so, mom was very, very grateful, ecstatic, was telling all sorts of people, people coming in.
[00:35:08] To me, I'm a simple-minded guy. In general surgery, we say, general surgeons are very simple minded, heal with steel; when in doubt, cut it out. Those are the parameters that we live by. So, to me, she was still autistic. I mean, to me, I didn't really see much difference. Now, to a parent who's dealing with a child, it's a huge difference. You have a child who's playing patty cake, stops having any interaction, now, starts playing patty cake and interacting with you. It's a massive difference.
[00:35:34] But again, for me, wearing the lenses of a doctor, watching, and observing, and looking at the test, it wasn't that much of a difference. But she was ecstatic. And then, the next parent comes in, and the next parent, and we have parents coming from everywhere. Well, about a year into it, by 1998, early 1998, practice was growing. I was still working ERs, night shifts, and then working in the clinic, but it was getting busier. And it was difficult dealing with the autistic kids.
[00:36:03] It was difficult to see the pain in the parents' eyes. It was difficult to see the interactions between nursing staff and the patients because it affected the nurses, it upset them. There was a lot of sorrow, and a lot of pain, and heartache that you could see. It was almost permeating. People that can see energy fields, maybe they would be able to say that—it just was a very non-desirable energetic level in the clinic. Even though the parents were happy, you could feel their pain.
[00:36:34] And it was a lot of the new people coming. That's where you'd really feel it, right? In hope, and frustration, and fear. And then, of course, the kids would tear up the exam rooms. Wallpaper was ripped down, trashcans are turned over, things were destroyed. And I decided, I was like, I don't need to see any of these kids. And so, we made a decision or I made a decision, we're going to stop seeing autistic kids. And that was in early to mid-1990. It was 10 months before my son was born.
[00:37:05] And it took me a while to get everything dispositioned, to get the patients out to other doctors. Now, interestingly enough, my now ex-wife, Abie's mom, we had had two miscarriages after our first child—or three actually, three miscarriages. She basically had stopped trying. And so, Abie, when Abie came into the world, it was completely unplanned. She was 42 at the time. And it was a shock to everybody. But now, in retrospect, I know exactly what happened.
[00:37:41] It was God increasing the ante, saying, okay, you think you have a choice in what you here for? I sent you to do a job, you're going to do that job. So, let's just up the ante, and that's what happened. I mean, I screamed at God, I cursed at him, I threatened God, I mean, I begged, I pleaded, I bartered with my arm, my leg for my son. And eventually, it came down to, I just made a deal. I said, give me back my son and I'll never stop doing what you want me to do. You give me back my son.
[00:38:09]Luke Storey: What were the complications when your son was born?
[00:38:12]Rashid Buttar: None. He had no complications. He was great. I mean, he was fantastic. I mean, his first word was abu, which means father in Arabic. He had a fifteen-word vocabulary. He was only like 14 months old. He was doing great. I mean, but unbeknownst to me, he went back, my ex-wife took him back—and she was again being motivated by fear, right? Everything comes down to people that are motivated by fear versus motivated by love. And when he was born, there were three doctors that came in. Four doctors actually came in trying to convince us to take vaccines. And I said, no.
[00:38:47]Luke Storey: Because you already had the awareness from working with those autistic kids that there was a relation there.
[00:38:51]Rashid Buttar: Yeah, I wasn't sure, but there was enough. And she did, too, because she was working in the clinic, so she knew too. But after numerous doctors, you can't be a preacher in your own house, so she saw four or five doctors saying, take the vaccines, and she saw her husband saying don't. She didn't see me as a doctor. She saw me as her husband. And I've experienced it before with my mom, when she had cancer, and I was treating her, and she never saw me as—she would always remind everybody that she changed my diapers. I'm like, what the hell is that got to do with me treating you? But that's the thing, you can't be a preacher in your own house, right?
[00:39:24]Luke Storey: Right.
[00:39:25]Rashid Buttar: And so, she went back at a year, little after a year, and got his vaccines. And I think she was thinking that, okay, we'll just wait, and then give them. And he lost his ability to speak. It just completely went away.
[00:39:38]Luke Storey: How soon after?
[00:39:40]Rashid Buttar: Within a month.
[00:39:42]Luke Storey: Wow.
[00:39:43]Rashid Buttar: And so, it was kind of like, did four tests on him over a period of a year before we could ever substantiate mercury. And once we did, on his third birthday, actually, got the test results and finally saw mercury. And by three years and five months of age, he went from no speech to over 500-word vocabulary. I remember my daughter looking at me, and saying, looking at me while driving the car because he's in the back, just chattering away, and she's looking at me, going, can you shut him up?
[00:40:25] I cannot believe that you actually thought that he'd never speak because he won't shut up. And so, the rest is history, but basically, Abie was a message from the creator. And you have to really know this kid to really understand what I mean. He's a world-rank martial artist, is a world-rank poker player. He's graduating magna cum laude from University of Charlotte, North Carolina. At dinner, I think we were talking about when he was on the wealth summit with his understanding of how economics work. And I mean, he's an extraordinary person. People ask me, how is Abie? Is he okay?
[00:41:04] And I'm like, he's as okay as Superman is without his cape. I mean, it's constant. Even now, he teaches me. His ability to understand risk management and he's one of the few people when, he says anything—I mean, on this planet, he's one of the very, very few people, less than five fingers on my hand, where if they say something, even if I don't agree with it, I will still listen, and think about it, and contemplate it. And I may still take action adversarial to what he suggested, but I'll usually regret it because he's usually right. And so, no, he's an extraordinary gift, as all children are gifts, but that's where it all started for me.
[00:41:50]Luke Storey: Wow. So, when it comes to the vaccines, I think other than the series of vaccines that kids are given, it seems to be increasing exponentially all the time, despite the public awareness. When we're getting into the suggested final solution to ending the new normal and lockdowns, we're moving toward someone like a Bill Gates, not medically trained, no credentials, whatsoever, in medicine, kind of getting very forceful about this being the only option.
[00:42:27] And I think about the flu shot and just anecdotal evidence from people I've known that have gotten sick from the flu shot that still get the flu. I've known people that have family members that have died from getting the flu shot, and that seems to be the most common kind of adult vaccine. Do the flu shots work? And it seems to me they don't. So, if they don't work, why do we think that we're going to get success with a vaccine for COVID?
[00:42:57]Rashid Buttar: Well, the problem is, with your question, you're asking a logical question, and there's no logic here.
[00:43:07]Luke Storey: That happens to me a lot.
[00:43:08]Rashid Buttar: Yeah. And that's exactly what we need to do, is ask those types of questions because there's people that don't get it, it's that logic that's going to make them finally wake up. Because when you tell them or drown them in the facts, they get into that cognitive dissonance. But it's when you ask them the question. And they may not even respond appropriately at first, but it will work its magic. It may take a week, it may take a month, but they'll think about that crazy guy with the earring, this Hollywood guy that interviews people, and he asked me that question, and it's bothering me because I can't answer it, right?
[00:43:40] And I've found that with doctors, I'm a master at verbal combat. Okay. I can bring a doctor down to his knees, but you almost have to sometimes because they have massive egos. I mean, I know because I have a massive ego. But when it comes to patient outcome, I have no ego. And I will send them anywhere to get better if I know that somebody can treat them better than I can. I think that's one reason we've had the clinical success that we have. And I'm fortunate that the creator has guided me in the right way.
[00:44:11] In fact, my name in Arabic means one who is on the right path of life. So, it's an interesting name. And I'm always off the path, but I'm always getting kicked on the right path. I think that it's the question that you have to ask, and with doctors, you can't ask that question because they have that superiority complex that I'm the doctor, you're not, so shut the hell up and listen to what I'm saying versus if you have another doctor talking to them that knows their stuff better than they know it and you should teach it, I can bring them down to the knees, and then I can rebuild them up.
[00:44:43] And I've seen that before. I've had doctors that were so arrogant, and then I've embarrassed them. I've shown them their own inadequacies. And within three months, six months, they'll call me. And I've literally had doctors on a private call, people that attacked me, six months later, on a private call, break down, start crying on the phone. Because I mean, you just think about it for a second, you think that you know everything, you've been told that you know everything, you've been put up on a pedestal, you have been almost treated like a deity, and all of a sudden, you realize that you have been nothing but a mouthpiece for an industry that has, if at all, the priority of the patient, maybe 10 or 11th priority.
[00:45:27] And now, you realize that everything that you've been doing in your professional world has not been consistent with what you thought. And so, in a lot of doctors, I mean, the ones that I'm talking about, these guys, I'm proud of them because they rose to that occasion, but a lot of them won't. And those are the ones that I have a very low tolerance for. So, when you talk about integrative doctors and mainstream doctors, I'm actually hated more by integrative doctors than mainstream doctors.
[00:45:56] And you know why? Because I call their crap—a mainstream doctor doesn't know any better, the integrative doctor does know better, that's why he says, I'm using a natural substance, I use bioidentical hormones. It's the same crap. You use synthetic or bioidentical, you're still causing a negative inhibitory feedback loop to be cascaded. So, you're saying, I'm not going to use a synthetic material, which is okay, great. I'm going to use a natural material to cover up the damn symptom.
[00:46:20] You're still doing the same thing. It may not be as bad, but it's still the same thing. You've got to address the underlying issue. And I'm so tired of hearing doctors tell me, oh, we treat the root cause, and then they give you an herb to cover up something. Like what freaking root cause did you just address. It's a mantra that sounds good and people like it. And I mean, I've been a doctor 29 years, but I've been doing this for 25 years, and almost on a daily basis, I have to realign myself because I fall into the same trap of trying to treat a diagnosis, and you got to stop.
[00:46:54] The AHEAD Map tool that we've created, which I think you had an invitation code to tell your listeners to, the AHEAD Map tool, Advanced Health Evaluation and Assessment for Detoxification medical assessment program, that tool is designed to optimize the organs of detoxification. I don't care what their diagnosis is. The magic of the AHEAD Map, as Dr. Ashton likes us to call it, is that it bypasses our brains, bypasses everything, and actually looks at the information that the body is giving us.
[00:47:24] So, we basically take subjective SF-36 patient outcome-based data, i.e. symptoms, and we objectified it into a numeric value that can now be tracked for one efficacy of treatment, whatever the treatment is, whether it's standing on your head and chanting a mantra, or getting chemo radiation, or taking this vitamin, or taking that drug, doesn't matter. A person cannot test themselves and see the efficacy of that treatment, whatever the treatment is. And the second thing is to track the progress, whether they're getting better or worse with that treatment. And that's the magic word, I will not see a patient in my clinic, none of my providers will see a patient at the clinic unless they have done their AHEAD Map. They've got to be done every time they come in for-
[00:48:05]Luke Storey: So, in your protocol, you just start with detoxification out the gate, generally speaking?
[00:48:11]Rashid Buttar: Absolutely.
[00:48:12]Luke Storey: Yeah.
[00:48:13]Rashid Buttar: All pathology comes down to oxidation. All pathology. Alright. And that pathology with oxidation, you know what I mean? Right? But with the rusting process, you cut a banana and a half of it turns brown within a couple minutes, that's the oxidation process. It's happening to everybody every day. When you eat, when you exercise, there's oxidation. But there are certain things that accelerate oxidation. And so, we have these seven toxicities in my philosophy, which used to be three, and then four, five, six, seven as I discovered them.
[00:48:38] And I wrote about that in my nine-step book. It's an international bestseller, so I'll say that. But it's been an international bestseller for 10 years now. But anyway, in that book, I talk about the seven toxicities. And those seven toxicities, just in a nutshell, heavy metals, persistent organic pollutants, opportunistics, that's where the bacteria, viruses, [indiscernible] , et cetera. First, through a tangible, you can measure them. The next four are somewhat more esoteric.
[00:49:03] So, the fourth one is energetics, from the 5G to the ambient cellphone radiations, et cetera, microwave technologies. Fifth one is emotional. If there's one more important than any other one, it's that one. And that's emotional and emotional psychological. Sixth one is foods, not what we're eating, but will be due to the foods, that's the pasteurization, hom*ogenization, irradiation, genetic modification. And then, the seventh one is spiritual. So, these are the seven toxicities. If you can take care, I'm making you sweat already, right? The seven toxicities.
[00:49:33]Luke Storey: It's a lot to take in.
[00:49:35]Rashid Buttar: That's right. So, the seven toxicities, their mechanism of action of damage is oxidation. And it's oxidation that causes cancer, heart disease, diabetes, arthritis, whatever it is, is that that oxidative process. So, our goal is to reduce that oxidative injury. And the way we do that is by removing the toxin. So, detoxification is critical to getting the healing process going. And then, the second component is like, let's look at cancer, for example. Cancer starts, because at that point, wherever the cancer cell began, and what was a cancer cell before it became a cancer cell?
[00:50:08] It was a normal, healthy cell. So, something caused it to switch. Well, there are two things that could be. Could be one, a toxicity at that point or it could be a malnourishment. There's a lack of some nutrient that the body needs. Usually, it's a combination of both. And that's where the characteristics of cancer begin. That's where the oncogenic process gets initiated and you have a suppression of apoptosis. You have an uncontrolled cellular peripheral state there.
[00:50:34] And it's actually nothing more than a survival mechanism. What's the last thing that happens to a tree before it dies? It rapidly sheds its seeds to try to protect its future progeny. It's trying to perpetuate itself. That's a last-ditch thing that a tree does before it dies. It spreads its seeds. Well, think of a cell. If that cell's about to die, what's it doing? It's going into a survival mechanism. It suppresses its apoptotic cascade. So, now, everything, all the suicide programs to cause self-destruction are wiped clean and the cells start to replicate uncontrolled, in an uncontrolled fashion.
[00:51:08] It's the same thing. It's a survival mechanism. So, our goal is to help the cancer cell to readjust back to a normal state by providing what it needs, getting rid of the toxins and giving it the nutrient support it needs, and that's the seven toxicities. So, there's an emotional toxicity, emotional psychological toxicity. There's a spiritual toxicity. People don't seem to understand that. Huge. Paul Allen wrote a book called As a Man Thinketh over a year ago, right?
[00:51:33]Luke Storey: Yeah.
[00:51:34]Rashid Buttar: And the summary of that book is that the body is a slave to the mind. If you have a problem with your body, you have a health issue, there's something wrong with your body, fix your mind first. If you don't fix your mind, you'll never fix the body.
[00:51:50]Luke Storey: Yeah. This is the phenomenon I've observed with people that have some sort of chronic pathology, where either in just a spontaneous spiritual experience or an enlightenment moment, self-realization moment, or a plant medicine journey, or something like that, they're cured of whatever that thing was with no medical intervention and really no material physical intervention. It's that childhood trauma, those things that are left unhealed that manifest through the body.
[00:52:20] And I know for myself, I mean, I've never been seriously ill, but I've had persistent buggy problems. And a lot of them have just kind of gone away as I've really done more of that emotional healing work and become more spiritually aligned. All of a sudden, I think I go, oh, I remember when I used to have heartburn all the time, or this, or that, and I didn't really do anything different. It's just, I'm just having healthier thoughts, more positive thoughts.
[00:52:47]Rashid Buttar: Well, think about it, you look at epigenetics, right? That's your environmental signal that causes the problem. Who would have thought? It's a signal. The same as the food that you eating, same as the air you're breathing, same as the water you're drinking, it's another signal. And it's a big one, because the thought is constantly going, yeah, we have hundreds of millions of thoughts that fly through our head every day. We don't have hundreds of millions of pieces of food that go into our bodies every day or hundreds of millions of CCs of water that go in everyday, but the thoughts, there are hundreds of millions. And so, if you start thinking from that perspective, our thoughts are critical to us being in a better state of health.
[00:53:25]Luke Storey: Well, that brings me to something I wanted to talk to about as someone who's been observing my thoughts for a long time, and always recommend that people do, and not just like, oh, think positive, in a pious sort of Pollyanna way, but really, to really eliminate all negative thought and emotion from your life, little by little as a practice. And I find this difficult around some things as I've become educated like EMF, for example, and 5G. So, I know that my body has an intelligence, and my nervous system, and the biochemical reactions as a result of my thought.
[00:54:01] So, when I see a cell tower or I'm in a hotel room, and I go, oh, great, the Wi-Fi router is right there. There's this contraction of fear within me. And I think the world at large that are uninformed of what's really going on, or at least closer to it, around COVID are doing themselves more harm by being in fear than definitely more than the virus, but perhaps even compounding the effects of the EMF or whatever virus they happen to be exposed to. As I walk around my neighborhood in LA, I mean, I live in the hills and there's not even sidewalks.
[00:54:35] It's basically like when you go for a walk, you're hiking, there's just concrete. There's a street. And some people are still wearing their masks. It's 90 degrees out, and the sun is out, and they'll cross the street to avoid me, and my girlfriend, and my dog. And I just feel compassion that they're still watching CNN or wherever they've been led to believe that they're at risk of walking by someone on a sunny day, but it's like the realization I have is, God, their immune system is getting compromised to all sorts of threats of pathology just by walking around in that contracted state of fear.
[00:55:15]Rashid Buttar: Absolutely.
[00:55:15]Luke Storey: That's something I'm observing in myself and really working on just relaxing, knowing that many things are out of my control, and including viruses, and EMF exposure, and things like that. And it just feels so much better to be in one's body when you're able to let go and just kind of surrender that protective, tensed state.
[00:55:36]Rashid Buttar: You're absolutely right. So, the powers that be that have a platform of the media controlling the narrative, and have the platform of creating these vaccines, and et cetera, et cetera, they have an agenda with the eugenics agenda. We pretty much know that. If somebody doesn't know that or they think that's conspiratorial, this label of conspiracy theory, is this conspiracy? Absolutely, it's conspiracy. It's a conspiracy against mankind. Is it theoretical? Is it a theory? There's nothing theoretical about it. There are so many facts you'd be choked on.
[00:56:07] If facts were like water, we'd be all drowning in the facts right now. So, there's nothing conspiratorial about this, but that's what the media has to label it as in order to dissuade the narrative, dissuade the discussion that questions the narrative. And so, when you talk about the thought aspect, if you were an evil mastermind, and you wanted to reduce the world's population, and you were going to create this vaccine issue, COVID-19, the media has been or mainstream Hollywood has been talking about, these types of things, Contagion, and Ebola, and all this stuff, kind of like preparing us, right?
[00:56:53]Luke Storey: Predictive programming.
[00:56:53]Rashid Buttar: Exactly. And so, we know that that's something that has been happening since the 1960s, Project Mockingbird, et cetera, et cetera, that all these different things that the CIA did. Now, if you were an evil mastermind, you would want to—let's say your agenda was to reduce the world's population and you knew that you couldn't force people to take a vaccine, or at least in the beginning, you couldn't, how could you make them more susceptible to becoming sick?
[00:57:24] Well, you'd stress them out, financially, stop the world economy, they're financially stressed out. And humans are herd animals, so you separate them by having social distancing, prevent them from getting together in places of worship, and concerts, and other mass gatherings, and then try to break down the family unit. You have them wear a mask to prevent oxygen, which is, you can go without water for three days. You can go without food for 50 days, 100 days.
[00:57:56] You can't go without oxygen for more than two or three minutes. So, you put them into a chronic state of stress, physiological stress, now by making them suck oxygen through some type of obstruction that further suppresses their immune system, makes them more susceptible to anything, bacteria, viruses, [indiscernible] , mycoplasma, yeast, parasite, whatever, and it just continues and continues. And I'm glad you brought this up because this is what's coming, the next wave that they're talking about, COVID-19, I want everybody to understand this, this is critical, when the second wave comes, people say, well, they just talk about second wave, there's going to be no second wave.
[00:58:41] No, there's going to be a second wave. There's no doubt about it. But it's not the second wave of COVID, it's, again, an illusion, just like the first wave was an illusion. So, people are going to get sick. How are they going to get sick? Well, they opened up cities and more people got sick, right? Why did they get sick? Well, one, they've been kept closed in, but they are stressed out, then people start getting vaccines as the vaccines come out, they're going to get sick from that.
[00:59:04] They've got the 5G rollout that they started rolling out while we were being kept in our homes. So, you've got an increase energetic level that the body is not used to that, again, if you go back and look historically, every time a new energetic source came in that we had a new type of exposure. This is the more evolved theory of virology, where actually, viruses are nothing more than messages that are going out to tell the rest of the species how to evolve because we are viral systems.
[00:59:34] If it wasn't for viral systems, we would be extinct. So, it's an evolutionary process, and what is the difference between a virus and an exosome? There's no difference. So, exosomes are considered to be beneficial. Viruses are considered to be bad, but virus is nothing more—I mean, remember, virus is not alive or dead. It's DNA or RNA particles that live inside of cells and they're released when the body is stressed through some type of exogenous stimuli.
[00:59:59] And that stressor is actually a way for that virus, it's nothing more than like an email or a text message to everybody else around you that, hey, this is something that's happening, we need to adjust, we need to compensate. It's a compensatory mechanism to help us evolve is what it is. So, when you start looking at the situation right now, to blame this on a virus, it makes no sense because viruses are really here to help us evolve. That's the more advanced virological theory, which I concur with.
[01:00:30] And this actually was first introduced by Rudolf Steiner over a hundred years ago. But if you start seeing the people that have been holed up in their homes, now, they're released out a little bit, they've been sucking oxygen through their masks, they're hypercapnic. They've got lymphocyte subpopulations that are trashed. Their immune system is nonfunctional or severely dysfunctional. They're in a sympathetic memetic drive, overdrive, the flight-fight response. It's like being chased by a rabid dog constantly.
[01:01:00] There's no like jumping up the fence. There's no fence, just day in and day out, you running from this dog that's chasing you or saber-toothed tiger is chasing you, whatever the case is. And so, you've got all these stressors in. And on top of that, you put the 5G as that gets turned on. That's going to be a massive physiological stress. On top of that, you're getting the vaccines that's going to make more people sick. So, you got people that are going to get sick from three different things, all being hit at the same time.
[01:01:23] And what's that going to be? That's the second wave. They're going to say, see, we told you that people are going to get sick. They're going to blame it on COVID. It has nothing to do with COVID. It's the mask, social distancing, stressed out, 5G, vaccines are going to make millions of people sick, millions of people are going to die. They're going to say, see, we told you this is the second wave. And because you didn't listen to us, we're now going to mandate the vaccine.
[01:01:44] They're already trying to trap us by saying, we need multiple doses of vaccines. And now, you'll see the eugenics platform taking place. The only way to counter that is for people to do the same thing they did with H1N1. Absolutely, categorically refuse to take the vaccine. I'd rather get a bullet, I would get a lead infusion in my head than take the damn vaccine. And that's the only way to stop it, because then, the narrative, the misinformation, the CNNs, and all the mainstream media, it's going to perpetuate this as people are dying from the vaccines, they're going to blame it on COVID; from 5G, due to COVID; from being stressed out, COVID.
[01:02:18] They're already doing that. People are killing themselves, suicide, all the amount of domestic violence, the number of people that have died from all these other conditions that could have been treated, but they weren't able to get access to hospitals, that's like 20, 30, 40, to I don't even know what the number is times the number of people that supposedly got COVID. But they're blaming it all on COVID. So, you cannot trust the media for giving the right information already.
[01:02:40] We know that. How are we going to trust them to give the right information on the actual side effects from the COVID-19, plus 5G, plus being stressed out from wearing a freaking mask? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that, hey, wait a second, I need oxygen. If somebody puts their hand over my mouth, I'm not going to be able breathe as well. I mean, it's literally that simple.
[01:03:02] So, I just want people to understand and register that message, that it's going to be, the second wave is not COVID just like the first wave wasn't. It's going to be vaccine plus 5G plus stressors from wearing the face mask that are going to cause more people to get sick and die, and they're going to use that as a false flag again to try to justify giving mass mandatory inoculations. And that's what we have to resist.
[01:03:27]Luke Storey: Will you explain for people that aren't familiar what the word eugenics is? And I don't know how much history you know about Bill Gates and folks like that.
[01:03:38]Rashid Buttar: More than I want to know. I'm sure not as much as I should know, but way more than I want to know.
[01:03:43]Luke Storey: I mean, the way I see it is you have a few misguided people that are devoid of empathy and devoid of love, which would be, I guess most people's definition of evil, which I don't really buy into, evil—
[01:03:57]Rashid Buttar: You mean like sociopathic narcissist.
[01:03:59]Luke Storey: Yeah.
[01:03:59]Rashid Buttar: Okay.
[01:03:59]Luke Storey: Yeah. And our world leaders, the pedophile rings, the monetary, the fiat currency, the scam of the World Bank, like all of this stuff that, now, even moderate people are starting to become aware of, as we were talking about earlier, because they've pushed so far, it's waking up people on the sidelines. But I think people have a hard time, especially people that do have empathy, and that have a connection to spirit and their family, and some dimension of love, they have a hard time believing that someone like a Bill Gates could intentionally want to depopulate the planet, and has, in fact, set out to do that somewhat successfully in certain areas so far.
[01:04:41] I think that like I've tried to explain this, and people are like, what? No, that sounds like a conspiracy theory. And I go, well, I mean, here's a talk he did where he's saying that's what his goal is. So, it's like the evidence is there. But I think it's hard for people to understand how someone could lack empathy or they could have such a thirst for control that they're like, what was that? Captain Evil on Austin Powers, that there are characters that are actually like that, but not fictitious, right?
[01:05:08]Rashid Buttar: Yeah. I don't know whether he's an evil person, or he's lacking empathy, as you said, or what I find is people like that are, they really believe the BS that they believe? I mean, they're not doing it because of an agenda. They believe it. And if you look at Bill Gates' history, and his parents were, and who his parents were influenced by, remember who started IBM, and remember who funded World War II? So, there's a great, great video, if anybody wants to see it, you can go to my YouTube channel, and it's part 2 of 4, Time to Wake Up, is the video title.
[01:05:49] There are four sets of them, but it's, I think, part one they took down, but part two is still up. Part two, it's only six minutes long, brief introduction that I give, and then the video that explains everything. It's really, really eye-opening. So, eugenics, to answer your question, is basically the science. It comes from either Greek or Latin, meaning of noble birth. That's where the term comes from.
[01:06:12] And essentially, the eugenics platform is that the bottom line is that they believe, the people that believe in the eugenics platform or the eugenics component, they're feeling—eugenics doesn't define it this way, but this is where the people that have studied eugenics, this is what they believe, that the world cannot sustain itself at its current rate of growth, the population. And I have no idea how they came up with this, but the number is, the magic number is 500 million people, half a billion people, which means that the current world population of 7.7 billion people is a little bit more than what they want or they think they can sustain.
[01:06:46] So, that means 14 out of 15 people will have to be eliminated in order for them to feel that the world is not sustainable. It gets even a little darker as you start going down this rabbit hole. But the eugenics platform, Bill Gates' mom and dad were both tied in with people that go back to Planned Parenthood, start Planned Parenthood, who were involved with the Third Reich funding of the World War II, what they were doing then, the genetic cleansing for World War II, with the Jews and with those that were undesirables.
[01:07:21] And you got to remember that Hitler's idea was to the superior race, Aryan, which, by the way, that's another interesting thing, because people think that the Aryan race is blond-haired, blue-eyed. Actually, I'm Aryan myself. And if you look at Hitler, had black hair and dark eyes, and the true Aryans are tall, dark, and handsome, kind of like me, you know what I'm saying? But the truth is, there's no blond-hair, blue-eyed Aryan, this is all a misnomer.
[01:07:52] And in fact, when people have questioned that, my question is that, well, why would Hitler say the blue-eyed, blond-hair was the superior race when he himself didn't have that? But he was talking about the Aryans being the superior race. So, everybody else outside of that race, the Mongoloid, Negroid, Caucasians, it didn't make any difference if they weren't Aryan. So, he started off with the Jews. But remember, he prevented, they wouldn't allow the Black participants in the Olympics because they didn't recognize them, even though they were better athletes, right?
[01:08:29] So, there was a lot of issues around World War I, World War II, Nazi Germany that you can see those issues right now. You have Melinda Gates talking about how the Black community and the Native American community need to get this vaccine first, why? You've got to ask the question. During Vietnam War, the percentage of soldiers, that a percentage of the population that served as soldiers in Vietnam War was 11% to 12% males, 11% to 12% percent of all males in the right age group, whatever that was, 17, 18 to 35.
[01:09:04] But 11% to 12% served. But after that, if you broke that down into subcategories, the highest category was the African-American community. They served 36% percent of their males in that category, in that age group, between age 17, 18, whatever it was, 17, 18 to 35 served. So, that's a disproportionate service. Second highest service was among the Native Americans. Third one was among the Latin Americans. So, you had Hispanics, Indians, Native Americans, and Black Americans that were serving disproportionately in all the wars actually.
[01:09:43] I just happen to know the statistics for the Vietnam War, but in the Korean War, even World War II, same thing. Why were they disproportionately serving? Well, economically, probably, they were not as privileged. And so, maybe the military was an escape for them. It was a paycheck and they were able to serve, and they were able to provide for their families by doing so, and they were able to also contribute to society.
[01:10:10] But the point is, again, why would Melinda Gates say that they need to be served first? Because economically, again, they're the lower socioeconomic class, but they're also less resistant to standing up and fighting, and they're going to think, oh, well, government's helping us. It's another way and it's another handout. We'll take it. It's going to cause more people to die in those demographics. So, I don't know even know whether you asked me a question, I just went on a tangent.
[01:10:39]Luke Storey: That's all stuff I wanted to cover, actually. And I think when you look at—I mean, if you really step back from those, even the CDC and the WHO, Bill Gates, Fauci, all of these people that are kind of the official narrative of that side, you could say, right? Not to be polarizing, but I'm definitely not in agreement with any of that on that side, personally. But what I find compelling and convincing that there is something nefarious going on is that never once have any of those people or organizations recommended getting sunshine, checking your vitamin D levels.
[01:11:20]Rashid Buttar: Exercising, washing your hands.
[01:11:24]Luke Storey: Washing your hands. There's no talk of nutrition, of lifestyle choices, of anything, and nor is there any, how about a program for the inner city or more disadvantaged people to give them access to non-GMO food, and organic food, and more fruits?
[01:11:40]Rashid Buttar: And their answer is more vaccines.
[01:11:41]Luke Storey: Yeah, that's what I mean. So, it's like, okay, there's a problem. Let's just say we do have a pandemic or there's just a health crisis worldwide of whatever nature when the solution is offered in such a narrow spectrum, which is like, we're not going to talk about any other answers, and anyone that is talking about any other answers or solutions is going to be silenced, vilified, called a conspiracy theory, taken offline, lose their medical license, whatever it is, we're going to silence any dissent. And our single focus is going to be vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, and more of them, and more of them, and more of them.
[01:12:20] I mean, I think even a rational person who thinks Bill Gates is an awesome humanitarian with just a little bit of, maybe not even critical thinking, you said, but just think something is amiss as to what the agenda is exactly one could theorize, but you have to at least question how that's interesting. No one's even saying, hey, drink more water, just like even the most simple of recommendation to fortify your body's innate intelligence and your body's ability to form immunity toward all sorts of environmental threats is never discussed for one second. And I find that to be extremely suspicious.
[01:13:03]Rashid Buttar: Yeah. What's even worse than that is when you start looking at the data that was released that the countries that started using hydroxychloroquine early stages had a 79% reduction in mortality, which means that if we had done that here, which by the way, it wouldn't have made any difference because they would have inflated the numbers even more. But if you really want to look at that, hydroxychloroquine has been shown now enough times, the studies that have been done to show how effective it was, they were minimized.
[01:13:37] And then, they did counter studies to show that it wasn't effective. And then, those studies were found to have been, on purpose, corrupted. So, they were not doing the studies the way a study should be done. So, now, my question is that, here, you've got somebody like Fauci. I try to be respectful in giving the people the titles that they've earned, but I have a hard time calling him a doctor because here's a man that will say that we should not be recommending hydroxychloroquine, a drug that's been on the market for 60 to 70 years, that has an extremely, extremely safe profile, has been used for many, many different types of diseases.
[01:14:22] It's a disease-modifying drug, it's called a DMARD, what's the acronym stand for again? Disease modifying anti-rheumatic agent, right. So, they actually use it with—I actually had seen hydroxychloroquine being used in people with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis and some of those types of conditions. But regardless, it's been used quite abundantly throughout the world, very inexpensive, well-known, well-established safety profile, and he says, no, we shouldn't be using something like hydroxychloroquine because we don't know if it's going to work.
[01:15:01] But hey, wait a second, let's use a vaccine that has never been tested in animals, let's use a vaccine that normally takes at least five years to make it a safe profile, but we know that we're not going to have five years, so let's fast-track this vaccine, and then let's give it to a company like, oh, let's say, Moderna that's $1.5 billion dollars in the hole, but I'll have my buddy, Bill Gates, call, and he'll fund it, and prop it up, and then we'll give them the contract, and they'll make the first RNA vaccine. There's never been an RNA-commercialized vaccine available. And you know what? Let's forget about the fact that Moderna has never made a vaccine before. You know what? Let's even forget the fact that they've never made anything consumable by humans before.
[01:15:43]Luke Storey: Oh, really?
[01:15:44]Rashid Buttar: And then, you know what? Let's sweeten the pot a little bit, and let's get rid of the animal testing, we don't even do the animal testing, and then let's tell the people that are going to do the experimental version of the vaccine, hey, no hanky panky, no intercourse, because we don't want the world to see what could happen if, by accident, you were to conceive a child while you're doing the experiments with the vaccine. That's what's coming down the pipeline.
[01:16:06]Luke Storey: Wow.
[01:16:06]Rashid Buttar: Okay. And they're saying that, oh, we'll have the vaccine now by the end of the year. So, they've never been able to make a vaccine less than five years. And of course, what they have made in five years, we know how pathetic and inadequate it was, how absolutely disastrous those vaccines were, what do you think this vaccine is going to be like? Okay. It's designed for one thing, Luke. You know what that one thing is, an earlier transition.
[01:16:31]Luke Storey: Wow.
[01:16:35]Rashid Buttar: Yeah.
[01:16:37]Luke Storey: Well, at least we're able to keep it light in the face of such adversity.
[01:16:41]Rashid Buttar: But this is part of the thing, though, right? Our thoughts, because the Serenity Prayer, I don't drink, I've never drank alcohol, I did have one of those small little things of-
[01:16:53]Luke Storey: The bitters, the mango bitters.
[01:16:54]Rashid Buttar: Grappa, with the mango, yeah, for digestion. And yeah, I had that with four scoops of ice cream. But to me, anything that you have with four scoops of ice cream, if they serve the vaccine with four scoops of ice cream, I might actually take it, but when you start looking at the thought aspect that we talked about earlier, the Serenity Prayer is a very important thing for people to remember. Whether you drink alcohol or not, just remember the Serenity Prayer. And for those, I'll usually ask, do you know the Serenity Prayer? And people say, yeah, yeah, I know it. And I said, then repeat it, tell me. And it's something about, okay, so it's not—you've got to say it out loud. God.
[01:17:41]Luke Storey: Grant me the serenity.
[01:17:42]Rashid Buttar: Well, it starts off, actually, as, grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change, the ability to accept the things that I can change, and the wisdom to know the difference, right? Now, if you don't have the wisdom to know the difference and you're stressing out about world hunger, and world wars, and vaccines, and this, and that, you're just going to stress yourself out. But what can you change? And here, there are certain things we can change.
[01:18:17] We can change our own field by being in a state of gratitude for whatever we have. Like the Pollyanna things, yeah, the positive affirmations, as far as I'm concerned, don't work. To me, it's got to be, you've got to remember what you're grateful for. And sometimes, if a person says, well, I don't have anything to be grateful for, really? We all have something to be grateful for. The easiest way to remember what you have something to be grateful for is think about somebody that is less fortunate than you, and there's always somebody less fortunate.
[01:18:48] If you say, I cannot believe I lost my job, and I don't know what's going to happen, think about the soldier that served in Afghanistan who had both his legs blown off or think about the person, the woman whose husband, in a drunken fit of rage, raped her and killed her, and now, the kids, they don't have either parent because one's in jail. And whatever the case is, think about how grateful you should be for the things that you have. And when you do that, that changes your resonance right away.
[01:19:22] And if you can't think of anything you're grateful for, then go freaking serve at a homeless shelter or a food bank for a couple of days and you'll start being grateful. That's the first thing. And it helps us to shift our mindsets into a place of awareness, greater awareness. That's one thing we can do. We can also, by being in a better state ourselves, whether you recognize it or not, you change those around you. Confucius said that we should take every opportunity we can to preach and never open our mouths.
[01:20:00] So, if we can just lead by example and stop preaching, that makes a massive difference. And one person at a time, our slogan in the IADFW, the International Association for Disease Free World is making the change the world is waiting for. One person at a time, beginning with you. And that's how we should approach life, because we can't change the world, we can't change our country, we can't change the state, we can't even change our own town. We may not be able to change our own family, but we can't change ourselves.
[01:20:33] And when we change ourselves, that begins to cascade. That can change our family. The number of people that have been ostracized by their own families, the discourse among families with this debate, with this issue, it's amazing. I mean, I've seen it everywhere, including my own family. I've got two members of my family I don't even talk to. I mean, they think I'm a crazy lunatic. I mean, they're telling my kids that they love, I hope you don't buy into your dad's BS.
[01:21:04] And then, my kids are trying to help their aunt try to understand. But it's okay. It's okay because everybody has their own journey. And it used to really stress me out, too, not stress me out that way, but it would anger me and upset me because I just want people to understand. There was this guy on YouTube that responded, I don't remember his name, but he was one of the thousands of comments that were coming in. And he said something that was so profound. So, if you're listening, whoever you are, thank you for these words, but he said, Dr. Buttar, you look like you're stressed.
[01:21:36] I want you to get some rest. And I want you to remember that you can lead a dumbass to water, but you can't make them think. And so, I've been told, well, you don't want to use the word dumbass, because then you alienate people. But at some point, you have to slap somebody into being awake. And to me, if that's the word, dumbass, that wakes them up, maybe it doesn't, maybe it shuts them up, at this point, though, I think if you got it, you got it. If you don't, God love you, may you get the benefits that you're seeking, and you can have my vaccine, too, but I'm not interested in it.
[01:22:18]Luke Storey: Yeah. I mean, with all of this stuff in watching the polarization of people as if we weren't already polarized enough just because human beings, we're generally idiots and so attached to our own point of view, but I've become, I don't know if it's less—it's not tolerance, but it's like at first, I was trying to appease more people and I didn't want to offend anyone. And if someone's really committed to their mask, and they think Fauci is legitimate, and all that, it's like, okay, well, I don't want to exclude them from the conversation.
[01:22:47] But as I've started to approach this subject by having you on, and Dr. Cowan, and David Icke, and different people that have what I think is a more logical point of view about all of it, I know that I have alienated some people. And at first, I was like, oh, no, I don't want to lose people because I'm offering so much other good information that I think could benefit them, but at a certain point, it's like you really can't save someone that doesn't want to be saved or convince someone that doesn't want to be convinced.
[01:23:13] If someone has a closed mind, there's really no getting past that, that ability to not only allow new information to pass through and to consider it rationally, but also, to let go of ideas that you once held to be true that no longer serve you and have proven to be false. And I know in my own life, that's been a huge part of my own awakening over the years, is just there are things I just used to think were the way it is. And over time, I become hopefully a little more mature and malleable, and I go, you know what?
[01:23:40] Actually, that thing I used to stand by was total bullsh*t. I mean, I'm experiencing this a lot in the area of relationships. I mean, I had so many dumb ideas about your romantic partner, and intimacy, and marriage, and all these kind of things, and I look back, oh, my God. Like when I was in my 20s or 30s, I thought I had it all figured out. I was an idiot. I was clueless. I was missing out on so many opportunities for a rich life experience because I was holding on to that structure that I had built from wherever that information came from.
[01:24:10] So, when it comes to sharing information like this now, I'm kind of just becoming less apologetic and I try not to vilify anyone that has a different point of view. But at the same time, I have to maintain my own integrity and speak what I believe to be the truth at any given time. And people like you and other people I've interviewed that just don't kind of cave to being popular or public approval, and just like you don't like me, fine, I'm going to maintain my own integrity and deliver truth as I see it. And as you've indicated here today, you're willing to change your point of view as new information presents itself. It's a healthy way to live.
[01:24:47]Rashid Buttar: I think so. I think it's a very healthy way to live. I think it's a sustainable way of living. I think it's the only way of living. You used the word awakening, and I'm sure you've probably heard that this time has been referred to as a great awakening.
[01:25:00]Luke Storey: Yeah.
[01:25:01]Rashid Buttar: And you're right, because humans have always been pitted against each other. I think it's been by design. Muslim against Jew, Jew against Christian, Christian against Muslim, Democratic-Republican, Black against White, tall against short, rich against poor. But if you start looking at this, this is truly the great awakening, because now, it's transcended geographical boundaries, race, religion, creed, ethnicity. It's basically those that are aware and those that are not.
[01:25:34] Even Democrats from one side are coming over to the Republican side, and Republicans—all that stuff is changing. It's those that are aware and those that are asleep. And so, to me, it is a very exciting time to be alive from a historical perspective. I believe we'll be remembered as, people will go back, and say, can you believe that they did this kind of stuff? I remember my grandfather was telling me this story. I think that's going to be what the time is like.
[01:26:01] It's either going to be like that or there's going to be nothing in three generations. There won't be any more human life. Within three generations of these vaccines are rolled out, the way that they're planning, there will be no more human life as we know it on this planet. David Icke, I was listening to him the other day and I was shocked by what he said because it's exactly what I know is going to happen. But what I was shocked by was he said, I can tell the future, and he explains how he can tell the future.
[01:26:30] And he goes back to people like George Orwell and some of these other authors, the Brave New World that was written in 90 years or 100 years ago, and how they were talking about where they grew humans. Like think about it, 50 years ago, 75 years ago, was gender identity crisis going on? No. But they've been introducing so many things in vaccines in the last—well, since 1991. So, in the last 29 years, something's wacky. So, we've got this huge population of young adults that are confused.
[01:27:03] Their narrative is confusing that they've heard, but on top of that, the chemistry has been altered from the vaccines and all this garbage that's been introduced. Now, some people are going to say, Dr. Buttar, you're now labeling blah, blah, blah, this isn't—this is fact. Sure, we may have had some people, but we didn't have this number of people that were confused from a genetic identity source. They're trying to divide our families up now, right? The Trace Act.
[01:27:31] The plan is that when—I believe in the next few generations, because this vaccine that's coming out right now, they've already done the test, 61 out of 63 women that got the vaccine, they found they're sterilized so they can't reproduce, but they found anti-human chorionic gonadotropin component in that, that basically acts as an antibody or it has an antibody against HEG that maintains pregnancy. They've got another version that apparently decreases male sperm counts.
[01:28:01] So, there's supposed to be two different types of vaccines, one for males, one for females. Already in India and Africa, they've got two different versions of vaccine, again, population control. So, when you start looking at this from a eugenics platform, well, to get rid of people is one thing, but then you've got to keep them from coming back, right? So, to make people gender neutral, even with the political narrative, with like referring to he or she, but neutral, it's to create this gender-neutral component of mankind and transform them so there is no more male and female.
[01:28:34] And they are already practicing, indoctrinating us, trying to take our children away. They've already had children in California, I think, to take the first child away from their parents because of the COVID issue. And then, more and more of that's happening in Australia, they're talking about. That's what the whole Contact Trace Act was. Child Protective Services have been doing this for any parent that wants to step out of the box and not do conventional treatment for their kids.
[01:28:58] They slowly desensitize us so they can start taking our kids away, and now, kids will be grown. Cloning technology's been around for a long time. I mean, how difficult is it go from Dolly the sheep to humans? It's not hard. It's the same thing. So, I think that that's what's coming. And it was foretold in the Brave New World. And I had had these thoughts in my head, and then here's David Icke talking about it. And I was like, does he got a bug in my house? Did he listen to me?
[01:29:25]Luke Storey: What's funny, man, when I started listening to David Icke stuff maybe 20 years ago-
[01:29:30]Rashid Buttar: That's about when I started listening to him.
[01:29:31]Luke Storey: So, the things that really made sense were the things he could prove, where he's saying, okay, the Council on Foreign Relations is this guy from this royal family and his bloodline is related to this one, and they own IP Farben, and they were providing ammunition for the Nazis. And he would really tie it altogether from very factual, historical reference point. Then, it went to the royal families and the elites in control are a bunch of satanic pedophiles. And it was like interesting because it was sort of novel. But I thought, alright, once he hits that point, I'm like-
[01:30:03]Rashid Buttar: There wasn't anything good on Netflix, so-
[01:30:05]Luke Storey: Well, I'm like, there's no way that they could be getting away with that, let alone the reptilian shapeshifting and whatnot. But it has been remarkable for someone that's been, watching someone like him or in Alex Jones for a long time to see so many of their theories play out as almost prophecy. When I interviewed David Icke, I said, man, I'm not trying to be on your jock here, but I think you're kind of a prophet. Twenty, 30 years ago, you were talking about this, it sounded insane.
[01:30:36]Rashid Buttar: And now, we're seeing it unveil, the separation of the family and many of the things you just outlined. And it used to sound like a science fiction movie, but the reason he knew that wasn't because he was having visions of the future. He was just reading the white papers and digging deep into these leaked minutes from private meetings of the Bilderberg Group and all of these organizations that do, in fact, through their conglomerate, multinational organizations control the upper echelon of our society. And he just was privy to that information, sharing it. And now, you're like, oh, sh*t, much of that was true. Maybe not all of it, but a good portion of it.
[01:31:14] But that's where the prior part of our conversation comes in. Mine is like, well, I can't change that, you know what I mean? All I can do is just share information and share my point of view, find interesting people that are courageous enough to challenge the narrative, share their message with the world, keep meditating, keep praying, keep my relationship with God, right? And that's it. Walk into a room and hopefully emanate more joy than fear. And that's it. I mean, it's like, that's all you can do. Like your friend, Bruce Lipton, and Joe Dispenza, and people I've interviewed, I go, how are you so happy? And it's like I think they just choose to be that way.
[01:31:49] That's exactly it. It's just that simple. It's a choice. It's literally that simple.
[01:31:54]Luke Storey: I think it was Abe Lincoln who said, most people are about as happy as they make up their mind to be. And it really is, at the end of the day, that simple. So, it's a matter of finding, I think, for me, balance of navigating these waters and seeing this as an awakening rather than a doomsday prophecy of the end of humankind as we know it.
[01:32:10]Rashid Buttar: Well, it's this simple, right? Either this is a new awakening and it's going to be a much better world for all of us or it's not. And if it's not, then it's not going to be much of a world left anyway. And so, we're going to transition pretty fast as it is. I mean, people like me are going to transition really fast because the first person knocks on my door for a vaccine, it's going to be a war right there. They'll have you on the media. You'll hear about this crazy doctor that shot somebody else.
[01:32:37]Luke Storey: It's going to be like, Wacko.
[01:32:39]Rashid Buttar: Yeah, that's exactly what it's going to be like, right? But I think enough people know that it would be like Wacko, so they don't want to be—and the people that I know that are in law enforcement, in the military, they're friends of mine. They'd be the ones who'd call me, and saying, somebody is coming, dude, get locked and loaded right now. So, my point is that I don't worry about that because we're all going to die. Okay. But how did we live? That's what's important.
[01:33:02] And I want to live free. More importantly, I want to live free so that I can ensure the freedom for my children and those that have asked me to be their guardians for their health, their doctor. That's what my job is. And so, if I can't do that to 100%, like I tell my sons, go hard or go home. So, I'm going to go hard, and if I can't go as hard as I can, which means I can't stop this from happening, then I'm going to go home. The creator will take me. And it'll be the transition that'll happen.
[01:33:31] So, if you start recognizing that from the moment that you're born, you're dying, and especially if you've ever been in a situation where you've put your life on the line for God and country, death loses its allure. It's like, it's going to happen. So, how do we live? As soon as you start to no longer worry about death, I've seen this with my cancer patients. It's exactly when you faced death, and realize your mortality, and now start living, that's when life begins. It's like the safety teams on football, right? You've ever seen the safety teams, like the punt return teams?
[01:34:12]Luke Storey: I'm very illiterate.
[01:34:13]Rashid Buttar: Okay. So, the group that-
[01:34:16]Luke Storey: I think the ball's not round. That's as far as I go.
[01:34:20]Rashid Buttar: That's right. So, I'll tell you, the specialty teams in football are the ones that literally throw their bodies around like they're little launching pads. They are known as the craziest of the crazy group in football, and yet they get hurt the least. You know why? Because they're going 100%. If you walk onto the field or you walk into a fight, you think that you might get hurt, guess what's going to happen? You're going to get hurt. But you go in there and your goal is to do whatever, whatever it is, my son, Abie, doing one of his-.
[01:34:59] I think it was the second year being world-ranked and he had a streak of like 37 fights, sparring rounds, and tournaments, A level, or regionals, or national levels that he had gone undefeated. And people are coming from different parts of the world, filming him because he's the person to beat. And so, we go to Fort Lauderdale, we were at a tournament there, and Abie loses a match. And the guy he lost to had never won against him before. He'd fought this guy twice before, but he lost.
[01:35:42] So, we were on the plane going back home, and I said, Abie, what was your focus on? He goes, dad, I know, I know. I said, no, tell me, what was your focus on when you were in that fight? He goes, dad, I got it, I know what you're saying. I said, just tell me, give me the words, what was your focus on? And he goes, on what it should be. And I said, what? Give me the word, what was it? He said, not losing. I said, that's why you lost.
[01:36:04]Luke Storey: Oh, yeah.
[01:36:05]Rashid Buttar: And then, it was like a light bulb went on. I said, you were focused on not losing, you've got to be focused on winning. And whether you win or lose, it doesn't matter, but the fact that you were focused on losing, that's all I wanted to get across him. And the rest of the year, he didn't lose a single match. I mean, it's very simple. To me, it's like, go in there and have fun. The very first time he had that problem, we had this argument because he was fighting a kid that was phenomenal, really good.
[01:36:33] Abie never won against him. And it was at the Nationals in Vegas. And I'm not reliving my moments with my son here, these are points that I want to make the people understand. And it was 96 athletes and they have a process of elimination rounds. They have 16 kids in one ring, and 16 kids in another ring, and 16 kids in another ring, and these are all kids that are eligible to fight for the Nationals. So, how do you decide with all these kids which ring you're going to put kids in?
[01:37:00] Well, they do it on height. They're all the same age group, 11 to 14, and they're all first-degree black belts, but they take the tallest kids, they line them all up, and the top 16 tallest going to round one, next 16, next 16, next 16. So, that's how to do it. Well, Abie and the person who had the world title happen to be about the same height. And so, whenever they would get into one of these situations, he would always eliminate Abie. And even though RB was better than 90% of the kids there, he would get eliminated in the first round because he was against this world champion.
[01:37:32] So, it was one of those type of situations. It was very frustrating for him, right? And then, the kid's name was Kenny Berger. And I can't remember what I had for dinner yesterday, but I can remember this kid's name, to the point that Rahan, my youngest son, when he was three years old or four years old, and Abie was 9, 10 years old, when we would pick Rahan up from school, he would come out towards his big brother going Kenny Berger, Kenny Berger because he knew that in Abie's head, Kenny Berger was the person to beat, and just couldn't beat him.
[01:37:57] So, we're at this tournament and it's all lined up. And again, they processed the kids and he's in the same ring as Kenny Berger. Ninety seven or 96 athletes in the 16 that Abie's got to deal with, which he can eliminate, Kenny Berger's in it. So, statistically, Kenny Berg is going to eliminate everybody to go on because he was the world champion. And as we're getting closer and closer to the elimination part, Abie does his fights, they're eliminating, and it's coming down to Kenny Berger and Abie, the top two in that ring to go on to compete with the other rings.
[01:38:28] And I could see Abie's, I'm looking at him like, what's wrong, Abie? And he's like, nothing, dad. But the little lip quivers. And I'm telling my son, just tell me, what's wrong? Nothing dad. Nothing. And I said, I can't help you unless you tell me what's wrong. And we're getting really close. It's like going on for 20, 30 minutes. And there's a picture somebody took, and I'm kneeling, and I'm looking, and it looks like I'm yelling at him, but I'm not. I'm looking at him, like begging him, tell me what's wrong.
[01:38:56] And he says the words that no father wants to hear his son say, and he says, I'm scared. And I was like, you don't have to do this. And I grabbed his bag, I grabbed his hand, and we're like getting ready to walk off, and he pulls back, and I'm like, let's go, Abie. And he pulls back. And I said, you don't have to fight. And he goes, dad, I'm not scared of fighting. And I go, what are you scared of? He goes, I'm scared I'm going to disappoint you. And I told him, and this is the lesson for everybody, I told him, I said, look, you could be the worst martial artist on the face of this earth, you could not disappoint me.
[01:39:45] I made him promise, he's a kid that once he makes a promise, he's going to stay true to those words, I said, promise me that you're going to go in there and you're going to only have one goal, and that's to have fun. Dad, it's the nationals. I'm telling you right now, either promise me that you're going to have fun or we're going off. But dad, this is a national. I said, promise me, that's all. You are not going to go in there to win or lose. You're just going to go in there to have fun.
[01:40:10] And we hemmed, and hawed, and he finally—because I knew once he said, yes, he would do that. And he was very reluctant, he said, okay, dad, I'll have fun. He goes in that ring, beat Kenny Rogers six to zero. Five is what you need to win, he beat him six to zero because it was four to zero, and then he got a kick to the head, got two more points. It's six to zero. Kenny didn't score on him at all. And Abie was so happy because he hadn't won the Nationals, he just won that tournament because that guaranteed him that he would win the Nationals.
[01:40:41] He didn't care at that point. He was done with Kenny Berger. And Kenny Berger came up, and he goes, you've gotten really good. But the point is he had fun. He started living, start experiencing. He wasn't worried about the outcome, right? And I had to force him to not worry about the outcome. So, stop worrying about the outcome. Whatever the outcome is, it will be, just start living. And if we live and we live to our fullest potential, we enjoy life, we embrace life, we impart on other's information, help, knowledge, a lending hand, whatever it is, that's what life is about. The rest of it, it doesn't matter.
[01:41:17]Luke Storey: I love it. That would be a perfect place to end this conversation, but I do have one more burning question for you. I'm like, that's such an amazing mic drop moment, the end of the episode. But I am curious about one thing, as I'm sure many people are. This COVID thing is obviously, heavily politicized. And it's almost as though, now, you have kind of more left-leaning people that are in favor of the official narrative, seem to be the most compliant with masks, social distancing, et cetera.
[01:41:47] And you have your more centering to right-leaning people that are like, huh, what? I'm not going along with this sh*t, the more freedom loving libertarian types like myself. And so, it begs the question in terms of our leadership, where the Trump administration or him specifically, because I guess his administration is not necessarily full of people that are supportive of his agendas or ideas, right? There are many people undermining his ideas, whether they be good, bad, right, or wrong.
[01:42:17] But it's been interesting to watch his journey, as in the very beginning, as I'm sure you know with Robert Kennedy, there was, it looks like, some progress toward vaccine safety and things like that. And I asked Robert about that, and he said, yeah, I went to the White House, we had a meeting, and then it just kind of, poof, disappeared. The whole thing, it just ghosted. I was like, oh, that's interesting because I was hopeful at least about that, despite many people's negative opinions of Donald Trump, I thought that was a cool sign, even if it was the only one that was great.
[01:42:47] Then, when this thing hit, it seems to me, and I'm not particularly politically savvy or knowledgeable, but I did start paying attention over the last four years because things have gotten much different, to say the least, but it's like, it seems like to me, just reading body language and reading the room, that he's kind of just going along with the narrative like as much as he has to, to not get vilified. And then, he goes and defunds the WHO, which are obviously incredibly compromised, conflicts of interest out the yin-yang, not trustworthy, by my estimation.
[01:43:26] And then, I thought, well, that's a positive move because I'm thinking about this next election and how this situation is going to be affected go one way or the other. Many people call this, you may or may not have heard this, the election infection in terms to COVID because it does seem timely. Oh, here comes the next opportunity for this guy to get elected, we better rock the boat. Then, after defunding the show, which I thought was quite positive. I don't know if this is true, and maybe you do, it's kind of my question, then someone said, yeah, that doesn't matter.
[01:43:57] But then, he funneled all this money into Gavi, which is in relation to Bill Gates and maybe worse or as bad as the WHO. So, in a non-partisan way or in any way, what's your perspective politically on how this could play out if he's at the helm versus someone else? I mean, do you think he's kind of going to be on the right side of history of this as a president or is he on board with the agenda?
[01:44:27]Rashid Buttar: Well, I think that he is on the right side of history. That was actually prophesized before he even became president, interestingly enough. And it has been prophesized as far back as 100 years, if you read the books, The Last President. They were written by, I think the name of the author is Levingston, but you can go to YouTube and these books are there. And they go through some just really weird books written 100 years ago by a guy by the name of Don who is a president and it's actually the travels of Baron Trump. So, it's about his son, Baron.
[01:45:06]Luke Storey: What?
[01:45:06]Rashid Buttar: Yeah, it's about his son, Baron, that his father, who's the president, guide him through these time machines through a portal in Russia. And I mean, they live in a house adorned with—it's not called Trump Towers, it's called Trump, they have a term for it, but it's not towers, like a palace or something, but it's adorned with, I think, it's silver instead of gold. Anyway, just go and do the search on YouTube, you'll find it. It's fascinating. But I will say this, that what happened with Bobby and with the president, I think was part and parcel, because you have to understand that President Trump does not know who he can trust and who he can. And I believe that it was a maybe a test to see where he could, how much line should he give him, give Bobby.
[01:46:25] And again, Bobby's like a friend of Clintons, and Bobby's been attacked for that. I know Bobby better than most people know him. And I can tell you that he has sacrificed a tremendous amount, personally, professionally, but even among his own family members. So, Bobby is truly a warrior on this path, but I don't think Trump knew that or was maybe testing it. He wasn't so sure. Again, he doesn't know. He doesn't know who he can rely on, who he can't. All I can tell you is that I think something's going to happen in October. I'm not going to tell you what's going to happen on October, because I don't have my crystal ball. I'm not Dr. Fauci who can look at a crystal ball, and tell you, you shouldn't be surprised of the pandemic.
[01:47:16]Luke Storey: Or Neil Ferguson.
[01:47:17]Rashid Buttar: Yeah, exactly.
[01:47:17]Luke Storey: Kind of a faulty computer model to tell the future.
[01:47:20]Rashid Buttar: Exactly. But I can tell you that it appears that there's going to be something that's going to happen in October. It appears so because I've been contacted already about this, and I don't want to put it out in the world because it's a plan, it's something that's planned. But if it happens, the world will truly know what is on the forefront of the president's mind when it comes to vaccines. He used this on his platform. I've never had a conversation with the president. So, I've had many conversations with his family members and such, but I have never had a conversation with the president. I can tell you that his platform, if you go back and listen to his speeches, he talked about how autism was related to vaccines.
[01:48:14]Luke Storey: I remember that.
[01:48:15]Rashid Buttar: Yeah, he was very outspoken about it.
[01:48:17]Luke Storey: There was that that I was shocked by, and then he also talked about declassifying a bunch of the 9/11 report.
[01:48:24]Rashid Buttar: And John F. Kennedy assassination, and patents, and yes.
[01:48:27]Luke Storey: Yeah. And at that point, I was like, this guy is awesome. And then, things just got really confusing after that.
[01:48:32]Rashid Buttar: Well, I used to think that President Trump, when he used to talk about how intelligent he was, and so, this guy is just a goofball, but I really do believe that he's playing three-dimensional chess right now. And no matter what anybody says, you can't have gotten as successful as he did unless you're an intelligent person, but he's in the middle of the worst incestuous cesspool you can imagine and having to traverse that labyrinth of deceit, and lies, and misinformation. And I think he's just biding his time the right way. Think about it for a second.
[01:49:17] If he comes out and says vaccines aren't the right answer, 80% of the country still thinks vaccines are effective. Whether this vaccine or not, overall, they think vaccines are effective. Now, if he were to say right off the bat, we're not going to do a vaccine, he would basically, whether they support him or not, 80% of the population would be like, this president's an idiot, he's crazy, even though he's right. So, he's got to make sure that it's well-positioned and well-timed. But you look at him, he won't wear a face mask. He talks about taking hydroxychloroquine himself. He says, oh, but we're making great progress on the vaccines, but not everybody is going to want a vaccine. So, he's playing his cards right.
[01:50:03]Luke Storey: That's kind of what I get.
[01:50:04]Rashid Buttar: Yeah.
[01:50:04]Luke Storey: That's kind of what I get. It's really interesting, because at times, he'll say things that I think are quite hopeful. Again, just being objective. Dude, I've never voted in my life. Like I don't think I ever—I mean, I live in California. There's no point. It's going to go one way anyway. But I'm not a political person. But I do observe just from a historical relevance because we're in such an unprecedented time. And over the course of his running and being elected, he said quite a few things.
[01:50:30] I was like, wait, what did he just say? And the vaccine related to autism, presidents don't admit that. So, there's been things like that in the chem trail stopping when he got elected. I'm like, what the hell? But then, it's the 3 or 4D chest thing, where he's like, yeah, we've got to get everyone vaccinated. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, and funding Gavi and these things, I'm like, wait, is he like a double agent or what is going on here?
[01:50:51]Rashid Buttar: Well, it's interesting because when that vaccine thing happened, when you talked about the hundred million vaccines by December and 200 million by January, and I talked to the person that I talked to, the adviser to the president who had reached out to me in April, and I said, what the hell? And he just kind of laughed. And he said just, when is the election? I was like, November 2nd. He goes, anything else you want me to answer for you?
[01:51:16]Luke Storey: Interesting. Okay. Well, that's hopeful.
[01:51:19]Rashid Buttar: Yeah, let's see what happens in October. There are some interesting things that I have that information that's been shared with me that I have shared some things, but then with the public, and then the rest, I'm thinking, if somebody is telling me something, and they haven't said, don't say it, but at the same time, I don't know if it's really going to happen or not going to happen, but I know where my inclination is, what I seem to, truth resonates, right?
[01:51:45] And so, what's going to happen in October will be very interesting, I think. And there will be a potential for whatever happens after the election, I think that we're going to be in a better place in the planet. And if I'm wrong, there's a chance I'm wrong, 1% chance I'm wrong, mankind is not going to be mankind anymore, let's put it that way, because the genetic makeup that makes us humans within the next two generations will be changed and altered by this RNA vaccine that's going to go in and rewrite our DNA.
[01:52:22] No matter what anybody says, that's the fact. But if I'm right, we're going to be in a much better place, in a place of abundance, and tolerance, and truth, and we will have exposed the planet, all the indecencies of the planet. And I think we'll find out that we're in a very different world. I mean, I think that spacecraft, and stuff, and there will be all sorts of things that we weren't even aware of that's always been here, we didn't even know about it. So, I think it'll be a very different world.
[01:52:52] And for those people that say, what the hell are you talking about? Are you crazy? Just think about one year ago, where we were. Would anybody have thought that we were in this place where everybody's wearing masks? Nobody would've thought that. So, where we are at another year is totally our choice. Either we are in a better world or we're in a world where humanity is going to be extinct in the next two to three generations. And it's our choice and it's up to us to rise.
[01:53:16]Luke Storey: Awesome. Alright. I already asked you my closing question of three teachers, so I'm going to let you buy that one. And I just want to ask you where people can find your work, your membership program, social media websites, your clinic, your programs, anything you want to plug, now would be the time, and we'll put it in the show notes. People can just do a search onto Dr. Buttar for all the social media platforms. Askdrbuttar.com/ask is where you can get registered and start getting our emails, get information, get free access to the AHEAD Map tool that I was talking about.
[01:53:54] It's 100% free to anybody that wants to use it forever. It's been valued at $300 each time you take the test by a third-party, independent actuarial analyst out of California, actually. But we've turned it over to be free. We've got over 127,000 people that have used it all over the world from 93 different countries. So, if you think you want to use that tool, go check it out. It's completely free. You get the free dashboard. You have many different resources, and webinars, and stuff you can watch.
[01:54:23] So, askdrbuttar, just D-R-B-U-T-T-A-R, askdr.buttar.com/ask, and you'll have ample resources and information, cancer, autism, stroke, heart disease, a lot of resources that we give people. I don't care whether they ever come to us or not. I really, literally, honestly don't care whether they ever come to us. In fact, I need another patient like I need a hole in my head. What I do want is for people to become empowered. And that information will empower you wherever you go, wherever you choose to seek treatment or care. And oftentimes, you may find you don't need care, you don't need to go to a doctor, and it's just providing people with information.
[01:55:01] Cool. Awesome, man. Well, I'm glad we got to sit down in person this time. I always have a much better time. Your interview is great we did on Zoom, but there's just something about sharing space with someone and looking forward to hanging out more this week at lovely Cuixmala. I mean, it's probably impossible to have a bad time here.
[01:55:17]Rashid Buttar: Yeah, I agree. And in fact, this place is, I just want to talk about this place for a second, because at the conference that we're going to have, which was supposed to be this week, actually, but we decided to put it off, there's something special about this place. And it's not because it's got biodynamic farming, even though that just blows my mind. I didn't even know what biodynamic farming was, and it's not because it's so beautiful, which it is, and it's not because of the people here, because they're awesome people, but it's because that there's something else.
[01:55:48] And the synchronicities that have confirmed that for me just in the last few days, even just getting here and how we weren't going to be here—as of Tuesday, we weren't going to be here, and Thursday morning, we were here, it indicated to me that there was something else, some other reason that I had to be here. And now, being here, I can tell you that you cannot understand the significance of this place on an energetic level until you've experienced it. I think you would concur with me.
[01:56:21]Luke Storey: Oh, absolutely.
[01:56:22]Rashid Buttar: And I would strongly encourage anybody that is considering coming to do yourself a favor and come, because it's going to be an amazing time, especially when you get just for the few of us with like mindedness, you can see what's happening. And it's this place because this place is a—it's a harmonic of this place that's resonating in a very high level. And those people out there that have followed me, they know that I had all sorts of exotic animals, eland and zebra, and this place has a huge herd of 55 zebras and eland that has no significance to the energetic of this place, and yet it does because it was calling to me, right?
[01:57:00] It was calling to me because everybody has a different reason for the callings. But each one of these things was bringing it home for me that this is an important place for me to come visit. And now, having met some of the key people here meeting the—I don't even know what her title is, general manager, Mikhaila, is an incredible person, but her introductions with the owners, and just the chemistry that's been occurring here is phenomenal. And I think that anybody who's considering taking a vacation any time, anywhere, this should be the place you come to if you value the energetics. I mean, if you want a beach, beautiful beach, you'd go to Cancun, but if you want to have a true vacation for the soul, this is a place you need to go.
[01:57:42]Luke Storey: Yeah, I agree. The only thing. There's one thing I—I don't use the word hate often, but I'm going to use it here. There's one thing I hate about this place, and I'm just going to admit, I'll be honest.
[01:57:50]Rashid Buttar: Leaving?
[01:57:50]Luke Storey: Leaving, yeah, honestly. It was like last time, I was here last year, and I left, and we got to the van to go to the airport, and I was like, oh, I feel heavy. What's up? Because I felt so at-home. And for those of us that are tapped in and picked up on those subtle energies, it's just—especially like someone, I've been living in a city for so long, when I get to a place like this, the contrast is just insane. So, yeah, I agree.
[01:58:15]Rashid Buttar: Yeah. It doesn't mean anything for you sadly because you're coming from LA, man.
[01:58:18]Luke Storey: I could go almost anywhere and it will feel like-
[01:58:20]Rashid Buttar: Yeah, Topeka, Kansas, you'll feel that way.
[01:58:24]Luke Storey: Touché. Anyway, man, thanks again for joining me. I look forward to hanging out this week and seeing you again soon.
[01:58:29]Rashid Buttar: I'm sure. Thanks.
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